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KingOfIdiocy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Youtube Reply with quote

There are quite a few videos on YouTube instructing people on how to
create damaging batch files.

People comment that these are not trojans or viruses as is often claimed, but that is hardly the point.

The point is why hasn't Youtube taken down the videos in question and banned there creators?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In most parts of the world it's not illegal to tell people how to create malware, do hacking, etc. There are plenty of websites around with that kind of information. It's called free speech.

On the other hand, it's illegal to post or tell how to bypass DRM / anti-piracy measures on copyrighted material, like DVD's etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Youtube Reply with quote

Free speech perhaps, but the comments made by viewers of the videos indicate that the knowledge gained will be used for nefarious purposes.

These remarks, at the very least, should be removed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtube is mostly useless for removing this kind of content.

at the recent RSA conference, i highlighted numerous examples of these videos, and pointed out that there isn't even a real way to report it due to there not being a specific category of complaint for it.

off the top of my head, you have DMCA / copyright stuff, racial abuse, derogatory remarks (or something like that) and a bunch of other things.....but NOTHING for hacking / cracking material. in my experience, most nobody labeled as a 2.0 company takes much responsibility for the content they're helping to distribute OR tackle the issues that come up as a result of insecurities in their websites and / or applications.

but i'm sure they're bothered about all that while counting their wads of cash on a boat in the Bahamas somewhere.

i've actually found its so difficult to get hacking content (and profiles that promote hacking) removed from youtube, that I actually now focus on forcing the individuals behind the profiles / videos to shut down their account or risk being exposed for the scum they are.

how stupid is it, that people should have to resort to heaping pressure on the bad guys to can the account voluntarily, as opposed youtube just pushing a button and deleting them?

web 2.0, man. its the new suck.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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web 2.0, man. its the new suck.


Ain't that the truth. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing youtube responds best to is flagging campaigns by fanatics and DMCA copyright trolling. Anything else is totally useless.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nemesis6 wrote:
and DMCA copyright trolling.


...which of course, they discourage by putting up big warnings telling you how much trouble you'll get in if you're not the copyright holder of the work in question. (interesting tactic, because i always thought it was a public duty to report potentially illegal acts where / when they see them, but apparently not anymore where copyright is concerned).
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