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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 18 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:47 pm Post subject: Help for reducing spam |
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See my web page at
http://www.netrn.net/fight_spam.htm
for help with spam. _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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blender Site Admin

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Last Visit: 03 Mar 2011 Posts: 10886 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Suzi!
Great page on spam! Lots of god info links on here..keep up the good work!
I currently use no spam removing/killing software since I use "throw away" email addys on most things asking for email addresses on the net. my address which I do display on any forums i visit/reply to I have the junk mail filter set to "paranoid". _________________ Never give up!
Former Microsoft MVP Windows-Security 2005-2009
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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 18 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome, Blender! I have a good system for dealing with spam too. I have the spam-laden email addresses that were formerly posted on my website, forwarded to a Hotmail account which is set to "exclusive". Any email that from any address that's not on my contacts or safe list goes directly to the junk mail box. There I can delete the entire contents with 2 clicks.  _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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Hinksey Newbie
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Last Visit: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 1 Location: Texas-- USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I have just installed Spam Inspector so I can't say much about it yet. I'm so tired of getting ads for spam and other Meds with no way to opt out. I have since read where it is not wise to opt out . I have the Spam Inspector to do a bounce so we'll see Hinksy |
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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 18 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Hinksey! Let us know how Spam Inspector works out for you. I haven't heard of it til now. _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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wawadave Warrior Obsessed

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Last Visit: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 3448 Location: Illegitimus non carborundum
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| never ever post your email on the net in open view as search bots run by spammer will get them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Acsell Junior Member

Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Last Visit: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 12 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Alot of good information there, just posted a link to it on another forum
I used to get quite a bit of spam but because I check my e-mail regularly it didn't build up and so didn't really bother me.
Also AOL seem to have got alot better with controlling spam. I can remember when I was recieving 100 spam e-mails a day. Now I only get about 2 or 3. |
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Eldar Warrior

Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Last Visit: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Vilvoorde (Belgium)
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Help for reducing spam |
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| Now if you are thinking "I don't have time or the interest to do all that", there's an easy solution for you called MailWasher. This is freeware which allows you to see your email before it's downloaded to the server and you can bounce it back to the spammer which makes it appear that they got in invalid email address. MailWasher is easy to use and most people love it. |
I agree that MailWasher is an excellent spam blocker, but they should never have incorporated the bounce. My advice: instead of bouncing, just delete it or deactivate the function 'bounce' in the Accounts options.
A long topic about this feature was discussed at the Poco Forum 'What's wrong with MailWasher?'. It came to this that most of all addresses used are spoofed, so in fact you're spamming a real person, instead of the spammer himself.
I can't post the link to the topic in question, because for the moment it's offline due to server change.
As soon as the forum is back I'll post the link.  _________________ Brabantse Leeuw | Eendracht maakt macht |
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BenFitts Newbie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Last Visit: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Massachusetts
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WildLily Newbie
Joined: 06 May 2005 Last Visit: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I received hundreds of spam emails every day for several email accounts and had to spend much time downloading and deleting them. Then I began using SpamCombat http://www.glocksoft.com/sc/index.htm. I can't say that I don't see spam at all now. But the SpamCombat handles about 90% of spam what I think is not bad. Plus, it saves me much time and bandwidth because the spam is deleted from the server and not downloaded into the inbox. |
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Dsenette Newbie
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Last Visit: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| it's not quite cost effective for personal use but if there are any admins here the barracuda networks spam firewall is the best thing ive ever seen. we have had ours for about 6 months and i havn't seen any spam make it through the thing. i looked at the logs for our cuda at our sister plant in KY and in the year and a half that they have had theirs installed it has stopped 2.3 million mails either due to being spam or containing viruses. in the same time period it has only marked 75 emails as spam that were not supposed to be and due to it's ease of use those took a matter of seconds and mouse clicks to deliver correctly. |
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carlosoctavio Junior Member

Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Last Visit: 05 Oct 2010 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Ey Suzi, can i ask u if i can translate some tips in my blog to spanish? Obviously i will mention the source, of course. |
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ChrisRLG Moderator & HJT Expert
Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Last Visit: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 248 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Just started using K9.
Its free and it seems to work.
You have to train it yourself - it comes knowing nothing, but by the time like me you have 500 good and bad emails - it 'knows ya know'. (Sorry that was a ref to a UK Comedy show )
Link :- http://keir.net/k9.html _________________
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Angoid Expert Developer

Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Last Visit: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 87 Location: Notts, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: |
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I've just started using K9 as well, and now it's been "trained" with a number of good and spam emails, it seems to work quite well
I wrote a tutorial some time ago on using Outlook Express's message rules system to filter out spam by recognising words in the subject, senders, etc. Although it could probably do with a bit of updating, I feel a lot of it is still valid.
I'm wondering how Microsoft Mail, the program that will ship with Vista to replace OE, will compare?
This is the article. _________________ If you don't know what eschatology is then don't worry; it's not the end of the world. |
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RedBarren Newbie
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Last Visit: 25 May 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone ever hear of KnujOn.com? They've done a pretty good job at cutting down spam for me.
I used to use Blue Security. Unfortunately, they are no longer an option.
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olliver Expert Developer

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Last Visit: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 1157 Location: yes
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RedBarren Newbie
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Last Visit: 25 May 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Not sure whether this is a report by a happy customer or a marketer being paid for raising the visibility of KnujOn.com's services. |
LOL, I can assure you I'm not getting paid, I am simply a happy customer spreading the word. All the standard disclaimers apply -- it may not work for you as different people get spam from different spammers, batteries not included, etc. I was one of the "lucky" few that got the "revenge" spam after Blue Security folded, for a while over 6,000 a day. That settled down eventually, but was still between 100 and 200 a day. I was down to about 25 a day a few weeks ago, but then I started getting spam in Russian so it's back up a bit now. |
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olliver Expert Developer

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Last Visit: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 1157 Location: yes
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for clarifying your motivation. No offense meant, but in these days where even ICANN accredited registrars find it perfectly ok to spam blogs and forums one cannot be careful enough .
That said, what I find positive about the CastleCops discussion I linked to is that these people from KnujOn.com were actively participating without complaining about the scepticism they encountered at first. So by evidence they do want to get in touch with people and hear about their opinion, rather than dump their ad via some spam blaster to gazilions of blogs and forums. But as I haven't used their services yet and do not know anyone using them, I'm not qualified to make an authorative statement about them.
Olliver _________________ Petcord netlabel :: Synflict post-digital arts :: Leftob audio cast
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RedBarren Newbie
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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No offense taken. I would be suspect of my recommendation also, since it was my first post here. I actually came by because a friend of mine is infected with a trojan and this site was recommended by a highly respected friend (not that my other friend isn't highly respected -- she's just not a techie). I ended up browsing through the forum and noticed KnujOn wasn't mentioned in the spam section. If you knew how much time I used to spend trying to shut down spam sites, you'd have me committed. Now I just send my spam to KnujOn and let them deal with it. |
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olliver Expert Developer

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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I ended up browsing through the forum and noticed KnujOn wasn't mentioned in the spam section. |
Ok, now it is
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If you knew how much time I used to spend trying to shut down spam sites, you'd have me committed. Now I just send my spam to KnujOn and let them deal with it. |
I hear ya . Been through that as well, but meanwhile I hardly send out LARTs any longer, because it's not really a rewarding task. Especially if complaints are forwarded to the spammers and they choose to forge your email address in their next spamruns so you'd get bombarded with all the backscatter coming from ill configured mail servers and firewalls.
Olliver _________________ Petcord netlabel :: Synflict post-digital arts :: Leftob audio cast
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RedBarren Newbie
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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I used to track them down and tell them I was 8 years old. Hey, it worked for a while. But that was years ago.
But that's not really why I stopped by. I write an article for a small newsletter and I wanted to see if I could get permission to mention Spyware Warrior in it.
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olliver Expert Developer

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| I write an article for a small newsletter and I wanted to see if I could get permission to mention Spyware Warrior in it. |
I think you need not seek permission just to write about a subject in your own words. Permission is needed whenever copyright issues could arise, for instance, if you'd like to recycle longer passages of text/articles or images for your newsletter. Briefly citing a source and pointing to it should be covered by fair use.
Olliver _________________ Petcord netlabel :: Synflict post-digital arts :: Leftob audio cast
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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 18 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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RedBarren,
I just saw your post. No problem with mentioning this site.
If you have a specific question for me, it's best to PM me, otherwise there is no guarantee I will see it when it's posted in a random topic in the forum. Unfortunately I don't have time to read every single post here.
Thanks. _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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nx42qr7 Warrior
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyber Criminals Aiming To Make Santa's Naughty List- "According to AppRiver,an email security service provider,consumers can expect a 35% increase in the volume of spam during the holiday season.Specifically,AppRiver recommends consumers watch out for fake holiday e-cards and charity scams." |
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mikey Malware Expert

Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Last Visit: 03 Sep 2012 Posts: 1061 Location: CenTex
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, since yet another thread has been dredged up for irrelevance, I suppose I might as well add my 2c to the KnujOn talk;
I guess most of you know that there is now a couple of whole boards invested in KnujOn over at CastleCops now.
While I have my doubts as to how successfully they would cause a reduction for individual users, I have taken a small interest as an admin since there is litterally no effort involved personally and a great deal of volumn to add to the mix. Ref; http://www.castlecops.com/t200372-Do_you_really_want_all_my_junk.html
Also, since there isn't any effort involved, any reduction of spam in the world can only be a win for me. I think it could be something others might think about too.
Just my 2c and I am also not connected with KnujOn.  _________________ -
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