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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: Open post to C. Stark enigmasoftwaregroup.com |
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Open post to C. Stark enigmasoftwaregroup.com
I have some questions that I want you to help clear up for me.
How is is that iolo technologies, LLC which markets: System Mechanic SpyHunter and has the active Trademark SpyHunter registered yet your group what ever they are called at the moment use the same name?
iolo.com
http://www.thetechmag.com/index.php/news/main/1042/event=view
In addition to virus and firewall protection, System Mechanic 4 features a PC parasite-fighting tool called SpyHunter™ which seeks and destroys annoying and dangerous spyware, malware, adware, and other notorious malevolent applications, plug-ins and ActiveX controls that fly under the radar of antivirus solutions.
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Word Mark SPYHUNTER
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer software, namely, computer program for providing security feartures to detect, identify, and remove adware programs and other spyware
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76526185
Filing Date June 26, 2003
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition March 23, 2004
Owner (APPLICANT) IOLO TECHNOLOGIES, LLC LTD LIAB CO CALIFORNIA 145 North Sierra Madre Blvd. Suite 1 Pasadena CALIFORNIA 91107
Attorney of Record ALAN R. DAVIS
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
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I have seen much of your many site and affiliates registering their domains with Domains By Proxy that will hide the true identity of those selling the products.
I have also seen a change in many of the sites that in one minute are selling spyhunter and the now they are all selling xoftspy.
You also state that you are a director of enigmasoftwaregroup yet you are mainly found as the President of Adorons, Inc. that deals in software for modeling. How is it you are an expert in the field of security software to detect and remove adware/spyyware?
Source:
http://adorons.com/about.htm
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| Adorons, Inc. was founded in 1999 as a software company to develop internet applications that aggregate and distribute data exclusively for modeling and photography. All of our proprietary software is remotely hosted; therefore requiring no installation or programming |
Also why does it take so many different domains to sell one product:
enigmasoftwaregroup.com IP from pinging: 207.44.185.159
uninstallxupiter.com 207.44.185.159
enigmasoftwaregroup.com IP from Sam Spade 66.98.154.60
photosoftware1.com 66.98.154.60
2-spyware.com 207.44.162.14
ADORONS.COM 207.44.162.14
HOSTCOLONY.COM 207.44.176.88
spywareremove.com 207.44.176.88
ANONYMOUSSURFING.NET 207.44.176.88
shows copyright: © 2003 Enigma Software Group, inc. All Rights Reserved.
REGISTRYLINE.COM 207.44.185.155 Enigma Software Group Inc
KEYSTROKERECORDER.NET 207.44.176.88
shows copyright by spywareremove.com 207.44.176.88 shows spyhunter
download goes to keylogpro.com 207.44.176.77
Now KEYSTROKERECORDER.NET when clicking on the download goes to keylogpro.com where on the page has "Design by PAL Solutions Ltd " http://www.palsol.com/
which sells PAL Spyware Remover that doesn't even catch half the stuff infesting computers today:
Source:
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=1151
These were at one time selling spyhunter but now xoftspy..why is their product better than spyhunter.
1SPYBOT.COM: 207.44.204.85 now xoftspy
spybot-spyware.com: 207.44.204.85 xoftspy
5spynetwork.com: 207.44.218.12 net detective
safespy.net: 207.44.218.12 xoftspy
DELETESPYWARE.NET 207.44.218.12
no-spybot.com: 209.170.32.71 spyhunter affiliate now xoftspy
spybot-download.com:209.170.32.71 spyhunter affiliate Now xoftspy
adwares.net: 209.170.32.21 spyhunter affiliate now xoftspy
Also in many of the older whois (yes I collect them all) the following email address shows as Maximus but now in the many of the current email addresses show Russo: Now the india.com is only a web based that you just fill out their form an have an email in a minute, no questions asked. I know as I have one there. Why would the same email in whois databases show two different people?
older email
Maximus, Velazarious utopia013@india.com
21 Jump Street
Rancho Cucamonga, California 91730
United States
310-555-1212 Fax --
Current email:
Russo, Alex enigma013@india.com
115 East 57th Street
New York, NY 10022 US
646-219-1842
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Now for the Spyhunter EULA
THE APPLICATIONS INCLUDE SPYHUNTER™ again if iolo.com has the Spyhunter as a legal trademark in Washington D.C. Patent and Trade mark Office how is it that you not only use the name but also have the tm (Trade mark) at the end of it?
ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS COME WITH THE ADORONS TOOLBAR™
Tell me why a toolbar from a site of yours that deals with Modeling software has to do with spyware detection and removal software?
Aslo on the Adorons.com site you have a link to PlatinumRomance.com that deals with online dating. Does this help detect and remove spyware/adware?
See the bottom of the page:
http://www.adorons.com/cgi-bin/models/index.cgi?op=2
We reserve the right to add additional features or functions to the existing Applications. When installed on your computer, the Application periodically communicates with our servers. We may require the updating of the Application on your computer when we release a new version of the Application, or when we make new features available. This update may occur automatically or through other means and may occur all at once or over multiple sessions. You understand that we may require your review and acceptance of our then-current privacy policy and/or end user license agreement before you will be permitted a limited license for any subsequent versions of our Application.
Now if a customer buys the Spyhunter, why is it your right to automatically update their computers with additional features. All the legitimate security software DOES NOT UPDATE AUTOMATICALLY!
. You understand and agree that by using an Application, you may be exposed to Content that may be offensive, indecent or objectionable in your community. You agree to accept all risks associated with the use of any Content, including any reliance on the accuracy or completeness of such Content.
exposed to Content that may be offensive, indecent or objectionable Is it not the reason to have security software is to guard against exactly what you state will happen to users who use your Spyhunter?
The biggest question is why do you claim Spyhunter as your trade mark when it is already registered with iolo.com? _________________ Wächter der Geschichten:
http://www.webhelper4u.com/thewatcher.html
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:29 am Post subject: Now since the New York Corporation Database online |
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This is the current corporation info from New York State.
http://appsext5.dos.state.ny.us/corp_public
Current Entity Name: ENIGMA SOFTWARE GROUP, INC.
Initial DOS Filing Date: JULY 05, 2000
County: QUEENS
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Type: FOREIGN BUSINESS CORPORATION
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE
ENIGMA SOFTWARE GROUP, INC.
C/O ALVIN ESTEVEZ
102-30 66TH RD STE 15K
FOREST HILLS, NEW YORK 11375
Chairman or Chief Executive Officer
ALVIN ESTEVEZ
102-30 66TH RD
STE 15K
FOREST HILLS, NEW YORK 11375
Where does Stark fit in as the chairman or CEO???? He is only listed as President of Adorons Inc.
Principal Executive Office
ENIGMA SOFTWARE GROUP, INC.
C/O ALVIN ESTEVEZ
FOREST HILLS, NEW YORK 11375
Registered Agent
NONE _________________ Wächter der Geschichten:
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:51 am Post subject: Interesting information, webhelder! |
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| Very interesting indeed. I'm still wondering why a browser hijack from BuySmarter's InternetAntispy serves up SpyHunter popups. Where is the logic in that? If BuySmarter wants to market their so-called anti-spyware program, InternetAntispy, through browser hijacks, why would they choose to also market Enigma's so-called antispyware program, SpyHunter, at the same time? Wouldn't the two companies be competitors? Unless......but alas, I think too much sometimes. |
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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That is because BUYSMARTER.COM is part of a Russian group that sells all types of software but that will be a different write up later. _________________ Wächter der Geschichten:
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Angry Homer Junior Member

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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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mmhh.. I say crucify them!!  _________________ I say kill the bastards first and ask questions later!! |
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Another good post webhelper. _________________ Nick's Security Ticker
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Angry Homer Junior Member

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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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I also found the folloing quote at this site:
http://www.dating-help.co.uk/42/casual-spam-partners-in-Finchley.html
This web page has been called up by your search for casual spam partners in Finchley. This casual spam partners in Finchley results page is part of the Search Engine Relevance Seeker. casual spam partners in Finchley service for discerning users of the Internet.
This free service is "sponsored by Enigma Software", who have made this casual spam partners in Finchley page possible!
Fact: "Over 91% of all PCs are infected with spyware". Enigma Software SpyHunter - sponsors of this casual spam partners in Finchley page - finds & removes Spyware, Adware, Keyloggers, and prevents credit card theft due to Spyware. "Protect your privacy and secure your computer." Click to download FREE version.
And, no I was not looking for a spam partner!! _________________ I say kill the bastards first and ask questions later!! |
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Angry Homer wrote: |
I also found the folloing quote at this site:
http://www.dating-help.co.uk/42/casual-spam-partners-in-Finchley.html
This web page has been called up by your search for casual spam partners in Finchley. This casual spam partners in Finchley results page is part of the Search Engine Relevance Seeker. casual spam partners in Finchley service for discerning users of the Internet.
This free service is "sponsored by Enigma Software", who have made this casual spam partners in Finchley page possible!
Fact: "Over 91% of all PCs are infected with spyware". Enigma Software SpyHunter - sponsors of this casual spam partners in Finchley page - finds & removes Spyware, Adware, Keyloggers, and prevents credit card theft due to Spyware. "Protect your privacy and secure your computer." Click to download FREE version.
And, no I was not looking for a spam partner!! |
I would never have even thought of that as a question BUT how did you find the site??? somewhere there is a from the webhelper _________________ Wächter der Geschichten:
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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I would never have even thought of that as a question BUT how did you find the site??? somewhere there is a from the webhelper |
I found it in Google, all you have to do is type spyhunter scam. and you'll find it like in the fouth page. Quite ironic right?
also check this out:
http://www.setiathomescreensaverspeed.co.uk/downloads/freeware/spyware/spyhunter/spyhunter.htm
so what do you have to say about this Mr. Stark?...  _________________ I say kill the bastards first and ask questions later!! |
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject: So maybe...... |
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| Maybe Enigma would be better suited trying to develop a more protective condom than their mock attempt at developing a protective program? Just a thought. |
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Perhalps yes, but if so the maybe they'll try to make the round bussiness with defective condoms too. Kind of like that old joke about Doctors and the Mortuary. Keeping a round bussiness for both parties.
Which actually sounds a lot like what they are doing now. _________________ I say kill the bastards first and ask questions later!! |
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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If you google EnigmaSoftwareGroup, you will see some strange URL's where their products are advertised. Not exactly what I would call high quality sites.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=EnigmaSoftwareGroup
Url's I wouldn't dare click on. Could have CWS or who know what! _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
Please do not PM or Email me for personal support. Post in the Forums instead and we will all learn.  |
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: To surf or not to surf that is the questions |
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I use two main utilities in my search for knowledge.
1. Whois View: http://www.whoisview.com/products/whoisview/
This gives me the following:
Who owns a domain name
Who owns a specified IP address block
Who is the web hosting provider for a website
Who provides the DNS, Email handling, etc for a domain
2. Sam Spade 1.14
http://static.samspade.org/ssw/spade114.exe
Allows for ping, trace, whois, plus much more.
The best feature is "View Raw Web site" This lets me put in those URL addresses from search results and also my firewall log entries and it returns only the code to view. This is one way to check a site without using the Browser and you can then see if it looks unsafe to go their.
3. Almost 75% of all baddies register their domains thru Godaddy and you would need to enter an ID in order to get the whois information.
https://registrar.godaddy.com/whois.asp
4. When viewing a whois and you see a state address and they claim they are INC., etc. find the state corporation data base and see if they are really who they are if they registered with that state.
http://www.crimescreen.com/linkspage.htm
5. When looking to see what if any a web sites looked before they changed, use the wayback machine.
http://www.archive.org/
TIP: if you put the url as say:
http://test.disk11.com/images with /images at the end, you would have to click on the link:
Click here to search for all pages on test.disk11.com/
This way you get to view the files and paths and not just the pages that were archived:
test.disk11.com/
~7 pages between Aug 01, 2001 and Sep 25, 2002
test.disk11.com/?D=A
~3 pages between Oct 06, 2001 and Jun 10, 2002
test.disk11.com/?D=D
~3 pages between Oct 31, 2001 and Oct 12, 2002
test.disk11.com/?M=A
~3 pages between Aug 02, 2001 and Aug 06, 2002
test.disk11.com/?M=D
~4 pages between Aug 03, 2001 and Oct 12, 2002
test.disk11.com/?N=A
~3 pages between Oct 31, 2001 and Oct 12, 2002
Again with this feature, use caution as the site may be archived but some you can still find active installation files that you may not want installed, i.e. adware types. _________________ Wächter der Geschichten:
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 5:07 am Post subject: Re: So maybe...... |
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| nomorespyware wrote: |
| Maybe Enigma would be better suited trying to develop a more protective condom than their mock attempt at developing a protective program? Just a thought. |
haha, it would probably end up giving you exactly what your trying to protect yourself from  _________________ You've Been Deleted
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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"Enigma Software Group"? Yuk-yuk.
"Colorado Stark" (real name Collin Stark) and his puke buddies are nothing but the registryline.com spammers. A bunch of coked-up junior securities traders who are feeding their nasal habits with spam, spyware and real estate scams. Phony addresses, voicemail bounces, the sort of pond scum you'd expect to come crawling up from Queens Boulevard, wearing power ties to hide the fact that they're the internet version of trailer trash.
http://pdpi6.nasdr.com/pdpi/master_report_frame.asp?Subject=2224729&Subject_Name=COLORADO+STARK&SubjectType=I
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: webhelper knows |
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hey man you got it right they are trailer trash with a capital t and fyi whoisview works like a charm. keep fighting the good fight [/img] |
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