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aBenG, I edited your post to make some of the links clickable. I think the forum left out some spacing or something.
I thought I was familiar with most music from that era, but most of these were new to me. Nice posts!
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| Ouch! Those take me back olliver. Here is some more for you to turn on, tune in, drop out... |
Cheers, much appreciated. I noticed you try to cover the more rhythm orientated garage sound, perhaps a good contrast to my music selection 
Here are some more confusing titles from the US:
Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms
Jefferson Airplane - Rejoyce
And one from the UK:
July - Jolly Mary
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| You're quite right olliver I always veered towards the harder edged stuff (formative years were punk era, but eldest brother got me started on Beefheart when I was about 7). |
That's quite an early age, isn't it? But my interest in obscure music was fueled when I was around that age, too. When I got my first tape recorder, it did not take too long until I started experimenting with all kind of weird noise strung together.
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Hm, quite contrary to what I heard:
I always thought it was the mainstream music of the 70ies, the hopelessly bloated stadium/symphonic rock severely lacking actual musical substance, that put those folks off and was the main reason for them to go back a couple of years and use that older music as role model for developing theirs. Then there's the huge influence of German Krautrock like Can or Neu! (imagine Post Punk/New Wave without these two groups, especially the driving, mechanic beat or consider the melodic bass lines of Holger Czukay and compare it with Peter Hook's [Joy Division, New Order])
That's a remarkable oddity: For 1967, this is very heavy, beat-driven music, it almost sounds like a precursor to Heart's Barracuda (which was released 10 years later). This is somehow in stark contrast to Sharon's "disco chick" outfit and the way she presents herself on stage. I think I quite like that tune, though her voice seems to struggle with keeping the notes on this recording.
I remember the seeds, along with 13th floor elevators, being all time favourites in the obscure record shops I visited in my teen age riot years .
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Or the fierce sideburns...
Here are three more oddities I accidentally stumbled upon during the past days:
From the SF-bay area:
Fifty Foot Hose - If Not This Time
From the UK:
Apple - Buffalo Billycan
Blossom Toes - Look at me I'm you
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| When I got my first tape recorder, it did not take too long until I started experimenting with all kind of weird noise strung together. |
So you were an early age sampler huh olliver?
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Hippie types came in for a lot of stick back then - I know, I went out with one for a while! Odd really as particularly the more political punks shared similar values (e.g. Crass commune) but that's how it was. Different club/drug scenes I guess, plus as a general rule of thumb hippies were seen as middle class, punks hoped people thought they were working class - that was still a big thing in the 70's britain. Clip from '84 to show how hippies were viewed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB0UZN83N-w
Other music punks tended to listen to was usually reggae or ska - original ska like Prince Buster was highly prized and hard to come by: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3LERNZlQjc
Or the Stooges of course, Iggy being widely seen as the godfather of punk rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K8S-1BwoJ0
Personally I think the Sonics (among others) got there long before Iggy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20S_kwNb4rg
Apart from Blossom Toes ( ) I hadn't come across the other 60's bits you posted. Keep up the happy hunting!
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Finally some time to continue with our ancient gallery...
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| When I got my first tape recorder, it did not take too long until I started experimenting with all kind of weird noise strung together. |
So you were an early age sampler huh olliver? |
More of an early age sample of eccentric behaviour (depends on the disk's size in the centre)
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Hippie types came in for a lot of stick back then - I know, I went out with one for a while! Odd really as particularly the more political punks shared similar values (e.g. Crass commune) but that's how it was. Different club/drug scenes I guess, plus as a general rule of thumb hippies were seen as middle class, punks hoped people thought they were working class - that was still a big thing in the 70's britain.
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Thanks for your first hand insight.
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| Apart from Blossom Toes () I hadn't come across the other 60's bits you posted. Keep up the happy hunting! |
Not even Jefferson Airplane?
Anyway here's some more.
First straight from Los Angeles:
The United States of America - Coming Down
Then somewhere else in the US:
The Fallen Angels - Something You Can Hide In
And finally Her Majesty's UK once more:
Factory - Path Through The Forest
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edit: corrected wrong location (bad research...)
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| Thanks for your first hand insight. |
I'm just glad people don't spit at me from passing cars these days. That got tiresome.
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Who?
More fun stuff - keep it up.
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I'm just glad people don't spit at me from passing cars these days. That got tiresome. |
That reminds me of something:
Few days ago, some female driver was totally put off by me crossing the street. She wanted to turn right and apparently had never heard of the rule that pedestrians walking in parallel and crossing her path have the right of way (and she has to wait). Consequently, she very reluctently hit her brakes and yelled something like "watch your steps before crossing the street" from her car, firmly believing I was interfering with her god given right of way. I just smiled at her and gave her the finger.
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These fellows
White Rabbit and Somebody to Love are their best known works, but I find other tunes of theirs much more interesting:
Today
Comin' Back to Me
Two Heads
Martha
Lather
In Time
Rejoyce, my absolute favourite of Jefferson Airplane, is already listed further above.
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Drivers can be so amazingly stupid about pedestrians and other road users.  I'd love to have a pocket paint gun to pellet the cars that regularly jump lights around here when people are using crossings. 
Just kidding about the Jeffersons olliver (though thanks for the links)! Used to have Surrealistic Pillow and Crown of Creation - both sadly lost in a house fire years ago which claimed the bulk of my record collection.
I was very fond of cover versions of older stuff - I expect you've come across this then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7kjmb3Ees
Inner City Unit blew me away at one of the best gigs I ever went to - a bit later, but very strange vid (though completely appropriate for them): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0qofsXXS90
The Groundhogs used to be very easy to find second hand - I can see why, as somehow their albums always seemed to disappoint, despite usually having one or two fine tracks. McPhee is one of the few white guys I really rate as a blues guitarist... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly8qTLjRmCE
Have fun!
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| Drivers can be so amazingly stupid about pedestrians and other road users. I'd love to have a pocket paint gun to pellet the cars that regularly jump lights around here when people are using crossings. :idea |
Around here, it's more popular for drivers to ignore the green light for pedestrians (they normally need to wait until they've crossed the street). And believe me, most don't even bother to slow down. If you choose to ignore them, you'll be run over in no time. Zebra crossings are even more fun, because some drivers accelerate when they see pedestrians who are about to cross the street. Presumably it makes them feel powerful, because they can force their will upon others and get away with it.
So in order to survive in the town where I live, you really need to be cautious all the time.
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| Just kidding about the Jeffersons olliver (though thanks for the links)! Used to have Surrealistic Pillow and Crown of Creation - both sadly lost in a house fire years ago which claimed the bulk of my record collection. |
Oh, that's regrettable with the fire. Seems you missed out on After Bathing at Baxter's which was released in between these two (November 1967). To me, it's clearly their best album with Grace Slick's songwriting at an all time high ("Rejoyce" and "Two Heads" were composed by her).
Uhm, looks like wrong expectations. I didn't . I do know however their cover version of Love's "alone again or".
Unfortunately, the dynamics from the original version of White Rabbit, how it starts quietly and works itself up to a loud final, are lost in this version. This is what made the song so special, despite its rather simplistic structure.
That's quite bizarre. Interestingly, it looks like a reference to a novelty single from 1966.
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The code to accomplish that is the following:
[url=http://www.example.com/page.html]example text[/url]
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You don't live in South Yorkshire do you? That all sounds very familiar.
That novelty single is very disturbing btw.
Re. White Rabbit: Grace Slick really did have an amazing voice, and good musicians. Dave Vanian had an average voice, and The Damned were terrible musicians - hence the difference I suspect. Mind you their gigs were a riot.
My Generation was one of those 60's anthems that didn't seem to fade with time - well, not until about 1981 anyway. Imagine my surprise when I found it being 'borrowed by the Little Boy Blues
Some more amusing and/or irritating late 60's sounds:
Phluph - Doctor Mind
The Shays - Brainwashed
The Cave Dwellers - Meditation
Hmmm. Must admit deep breathing never quite did that for me...
Thanks for the url tip olliver.
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You don't live in South Yorkshire do you? That all sounds very familiar. |
Nah, a couple of parallels further south in a non-surveillance area, where it is considerably warmer in summer than in Yorkshire (peaches and apricots grow quite well here) and people have a very peculiar accent when they try to communicate in English.
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As strange as it sounds, it did hit the charts in 1966 (#3 US, #4 UK), however, according to Wikipedia, there was much controversy about the song.
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Dave Vanian had an average voice, and The Damned were terrible musicians - hence the difference I suspect. Mind you their gigs were a riot. |
Actually, I find their Love cover version better than the original (which sounds a bit cheesy). And they had some other tunes that weren't too bad either.
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Hm, when I compare it to the original, I find the latter much more appealing. Especially Keith Loon's abrasive (yet precise) drumming style
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Very interesting. They do not at all sound like Americans, more like the typical swinging London band in striped trousers and paisley shirts.
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Glad to be of service to you, Sir
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Oooh warm climate and peaches! Sounds like heaven, apart from the drivers.
Phluph do sound very Carnaby Street don't they? I've come across a few others like that, The Troll for example. (IIRC they did some very strange and sinister songs on that album - sadly not to be found on YouTube).
I do have a fondness for a lot of the music that came out just before the Summer of Love. How about The Jujus - a sweet little guitar driven number. Or The Ugly Ducklings - more garagey beat stuff, but nicely remixed here to bring out that special valve amp sound.
Psychedelia had its compensations though: ever the showman, Arthur Brown. Dig those groovin' kids in the library.
I'd still rather have seen his inspiration though: the awesome Screamin' Jay. Cannibalistic daddy-o! 
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| Phluph do sound very Carnaby Street don't they? I've come across a few others like that, The Troll for example. (IIRC they did some very strange and sinister songs on that album - sadly not to be found on YouTube). |
Sounds like Sgt. Pepper going out for flying a paisley kite into marmalade skies . Interesting tune.
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polka garage? To be honest, not quite my cup of tea.
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I happen to know a different tune by them (silly lyrics warning ahead...):
Hangman
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To me, this looks like a pathetic poseur, willing to do any silliness just to get some minutes of attention. Speaking of Arthur Brown: My elder sister was very fond of the song "fire" by this gentleman and would play it frequently. I really hated this song as a child (and still do today), so this was a convenient way for her to get rid of me . But in all fairness, she also listened to music like this (I liked this tune a lot as a child)
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Duh, I find this plain sick. Not just that insane laughter and slightly deranged lyrics ("I put a spell on you because you're mine"), but this flirtation with Voodoo. Another one of these tunes I always hated from my earliest childhood on.
But since we had the subject of 1966, I came across an interesting case of plagiarism:
The Jam - Start (1980)
and the original:
Taxman - Beatles (1966)
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No Doctor John for you tonight then olliver.
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Too late, I'm already spellbound. No voodoo dolly could help me any more.
Seriously, Dr John was waaaay more fun to watch and listen to than Arthur "two sheds" Brown .
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Can't disagree there. I missed him in about '84 when he ODed (allegedly) rather than perform. 20 years later finally saw him do his stuff and it was a cracker of a gig.
Don't forget the metal!
And a galaxy of stars with Pere Ubu
Oh well they were alive in the 60's anyway!
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