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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Aussie gold medalist spyware mogul Reply with quote

http://tinyurl.com/cngzq

Looks like this turncoat ex-hoser is just another keylogging douchebag. I hope they eventually strip him of his medal.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks zeolite that is an interesting story.

Some good comments in there too .. and some not so good.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While this person has certainly done something wrong, it doesn't entitle anyone who calls him/herself human and civilised to repay it by means of blunt violence. Letting out frustration on a scapegoat, admittly an easy target in this case, is one thing, but questioning how this can be possible at all is another, that needs to be investigated. The real issue is the infrastructure that makes Spy/Ad/Mal/whatever- biz lucrative and it should be addressed accordingly.

Anyway, I particularily like the comment by Alejandro Nova for that matter:

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1. One of the first things I learned when I went the first year to my law school is that we must diferentiate between something unethical and something illegal. Even though something is unethical, we must allow people to do it unless it is explicitly banned by laws (I don't know english exact translation of these terms because they involve a deep knowledge of a Common Law system and we, in Chile, live under a Civil Law system, but they translate roughly to "will authonomy principle" and "minimum intervention of the criminal laws principle"). So, this business is certainly highly unethical, but it's legal, almost in Australia.

2. You know now the man who file a suit against, if you feel that the spyware that he and his company drove into your computers caused damage. That's also true.

3. Also, I make myself two questions.
a) Why does an elite sportsman, gold medalist, need to finance his career through a spam delivery company? Wasn't enough with Australian sports programs? Are there any chances of seeing him, when he finishes his sports career, studying at the university, changing his life into a succesful one?
b) Why does the Internet industry allow spam delivery as a viable business? Why, when they love charge for anything, didn't they charge, say, $0.005 (half cent) per email sent? That's no trouble for us, users, but if you send 16,000,000 messages a day, you are in serious trouble.


One more thought to add (in my opinion):
It's a sign of strength to grant one's "enemy" the same basic human rights, as one's friends. Surely a way must be found to compensate the victims. But let's also see the other side, people rejecting self responsibility: Both must be taken into consideration and those who still don't install patches to address vulnerabilities that have been fixed for ages shouldn't get the same compensation (if any) as those who couldn't protect themselves by the time they got infested with it without their expressed consent (because there was no fix at that time).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alot of stuff flying around on blogs and security sites and media outlets about this guy.

Lets constrain any hysteria.

He won Gold.
Fantastic achievement, no question.

He seems as smart as a whip. Is obviously driven, disciplined and ambitious.
Supposedly started his web services from the age of 13.

He has been very reticent about his business.
I support his right to privacy.

He is also displaying some typical signs of a sociopath by seeming to assume that he should not be subject to any scrutiny

We forgive plenty in our sports stars, but they are not immune, or should not be, immune to basic standards and common or criminal law.

Contrary to the previous post from Olliver , and, I'm not a Lawyer, I suspect he has broken at least some laws in possibly the USA, UK, and Australia and may still be doing so.

If as alleged his company is responsible for driveby exploits, spamming, trojans, BHO hijacks and adware and he has now exposed himself, then I believe it is the reponsibility of this site and others to shine a very bright light on him and his "businesses".

It is then the responsibility of various authorities to persue any such allegations.

I and obviously others here reserve MY rights to a free and safe web.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suspect he has broken at least some laws in possibly the USA, UK, and Australia


Suspect? It's absolutely certain.

CPM Media and their many many aliases* were one of the heaviest users of browser security exploits outside of the CWS complex. Their abuse of flaws to install large quantities of their own and affiliate spyware is certainly illegal under hacking laws in many countries. Begg-Smith's business is not just unethical but solidly criminal.

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and may still be doing so.


I don't know of any CPM exploit activity since last Autumn - possibly he's been too busy with the Olympics stuff.

(* - here's the whois information for sites operated by CPM:)

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@peer1
  ns1.cpm-media.com                       69.28.210.135     CPM Media Phil Binder
  popnugget.com                           69.28.210.140     CPM Media Phil Binder
  softtechltd.com                         69.28.210.140     SoftTech
* v7.alwaysupdatednews.com                69.28.210.140     Gerold Hoop SoftTech
* v8.alwaysupdatednews.com                69.28.210.150     Gerold Hoop SoftTech
  0dp.com                                 69.28.210.150     CPM Media Phil Binder
  123expressview.com                      69.28.210.150     CPM Media Phil Binder
* 2nd-thought.com                         69.28.210.150     2ndThought Moscow
  34f.com                                 69.28.210.150     Customer Support NJ
  aaabesthomepage.com                     69.28.210.150     (expiring?)
  adscpm.com                              69.28.210.150     AdsCPM Steve Richards Toronto
  adslimitless.com                        69.28.210.150     Randy Thompson Vancouver
  adultexpressview.com                    69.28.210.150     CPM Media Phil Binder
  advolt.com                              69.28.210.150     AdVolt Ontario
  cpm-media.com                           69.28.210.150     CPM Media Phil Binder
* enhancemysearch.com                     69.28.210.150     Frank Smith Vancouver
  free-scratch-cards.com                  69.28.210.150     FSC Moscow
  freescratchandwin.com                   69.28.210.150     CPM Media Moscow
* fsc2k.com                               69.28.210.150     CPM Media Phil Binder
  hotcry.com                              69.28.210.150     DomainsByProxy
  kill-pop-ups.com                        69.28.210.150     DomainsByProxy
  leadtaxi.com                            69.28.210.150     C2C Media Beverly Hills
  marketingsector.com                     69.28.210.150     Marketing Vancouver
* newtopsites.com                         69.28.210.150     CPM Media Phil Binder
  rebateshoppers.com                      69.28.210.150     Rebate Support NJ
  spywaredissolver.com                    69.28.210.150     Sea Media Panama
  wmgmedia.com                            69.28.210.150     DomainsByProxy
  xbloom.com                              69.28.210.150     DomainsByProxy
* xzoomy.com                              69.28.210.150     XzoomY Mike Cass Winnipeg
  (many of the above also)                69.28.210.160
  ns2.cpm-media.com                       69.28.210.170     CPM Media Phil Binder
  ns2.1gq.com                             69.28.210.170     Customer Support NJ
  ns1.1gq.com                             69.28.210.250     Customer Support NJ
  torvent.com                             69.28.210.250     Torvent Tech NJ
  darkpact.net                            69.28.210.250     Customer Support NJ
@rusko
  pacerd.com                              69.90.172.224     Tomaz Urbic Victoria
@net2net
  alwaysupdatednews.com                   200.46.144.58     Gerold Hoop SoftTech
@linkey
* adsavior.com                            213.159.119.2     James Finlayson Vancouver
  adsavior.biz                            213.159.119.2     (expiring?)
  spywaredissolver.com                    213.159.119.2     Sea Media Panama
  search-pounder.com                      213.159.119.3     CPM Media Phil Binder
  pan-advert.biz                          213.159.119.4     Sea Media Panama
* pan-advert.com                          213.159.119.4     Sea Media Panama
  seamediasa.com                          213.159.119.4     Sea Media Panama
* newsh.com                               213.159.119.5     much media Panama
  newsrad.com                             213.159.119.5     much media Panama
  groundoptions.com                       213.159.119.5     much media Panama
* kvmmedia.com                            213.159.119.5     KVM MEDIA S.A
  more-mediaone.com                       213.159.119.5     KVM MEDIA S.A
  newsagemedia.com                        213.159.119.5     KVM MEDIA S.A
  railootions.com                         213.159.119.5     much media Panama
* pacimedia.com                           213.159.119.18    Tomaz Urbic Victoria
@kvmmedia@wcg
* icannnews.com                           64.192.130.161    KVM MEDIA S.A
  mononews.com                            64.192.130.161    KVM MEDIA S.A
not hosted
* exfol.com                                                 (broken), SRSPlus
  freecat.biz                                               (none), SRSPlus
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longboard wrote:
Contrary to the previous post from Olliver , and, I'm not a Lawyer, I suspect he has broken at least some laws in possibly the USA, UK, and Australia and may still be doing so.

Sorry, where did I wrote that I didn't believe he would have broken any laws? Are you sure you are referring to my post?

I didn't question that installing malware without user's consent might be illegal in several countries. In fact I didn't even mention it, because it's irrelevant here, as he's an Australian citizen. So only Australian law matters. I did write, however that there should be a way to compensate the damage of these installations.

My main point was opposing against the "let's tar and feather him" posts I saw on several occasions. But at no case did I mean to belittle the damage in itself. Rather than a lynch mob, lawers should decide how to deal with this issue, based on their unbiased findings.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thanks Bob, I agree.

I read somewhere that CPM was the third heaviest "abuser" after some Russian companies.

Olliver, sorry if I misinterpreted your post, thanks for correcting me and I agree with your general thrust.

It will be interesting to see how the media and authorities here respond to the web led "outing' of DBS.

I have written to some media contacts here in the great "free' press (actually controlled by 2 realistically private Companies; News Ltd and the Packer family and one public company; Fairfax) of this nation, and I suspect I am not alone. This will be a test of how commited our media and regulatory bodies are.

Again, not being an expert, rather, a concerned little fish, I wonder what the response to the circumstances will be in the countries where DBS's firm is incorporated and operates from.

Watch and wait.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironically enough, I got a pitch for "3 Reasons to Try GoToMeeting" from CPM Media just this morning. Just added info.cmptechdirect.com to my blocked domains list. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL and tears

You may be interested to know that DBS has been chosen to carry the Oz flag at the closing ceremony of the Olympics!!

There has even been some media about putting him on a stamp!!!

How 'bout dat!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully you will all be pleased to see that the Oz Media has just had 2 front page stories in the Saturday national dailies

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/...191842651.html

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5E2702,00.html

that serve to expose DBS.

With any luck there will be ongoing stories.

If enough right minded individuals push then some good can come of it.

Does Canada accept returns??

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both of those links appear to be broken, here is one I picked up from DSLR:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18342922%255E2702,00.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops sorry

try here

http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/spyware-cybersigns-point-to-beggsmith/2006/03/03/1141191842651.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow -- both of those are *very* interesting articles.

Check this link, from the smh.com.au article:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050125100919/http:/adscpm.com/

SpywareWarrior is mentioned in that article at the end:

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:: An anti-spyware vigilante website called Webhelper4U

:: An anti-spyware vigilante website called Spyware Warrior

:: An anti-spyware vigilante website called Doxdesk


Anti-spyware vigilante website... Cool

Edit - -TeMerc, you posted on your blog that Aluria and WhenU were on digg, but I couldn't find it. Do you have a direct link the the topic there?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suzi wrote:
Edit - -TeMerc, you posted on your blog that Aluria and WhenU were on digg, but I couldn't find it. Do you have a direct link the the topic there?

You have to go to digg, security section and search for Aluria.
http://www.digg.com/search?search=aluria

Only 7 diggs tho, maybe next time we'll try Slashdot. And not much reaction over at DSLR either, thought it would get some of them riled up.

Thanks for hitting my blog too. Wink
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